Tuesday, November 17, 2009

I have personally photographed different varities of petrified wood and ALL are without growth rings. WHY?

Very true, and I will post photos some day.





Does this support Flood Geology and display the earth was once Adam's botanical garden, or arboretum?

I have personally photographed different varities of petrified wood and ALL are without growth rings. WHY?
Many observed phenomena are explained better by the flood than by the evolutionism of "science". I thought many petrified woods DID have rings, but I don't have any here to check.
Reply:Perhaps you are not looking hard enough, or are relying on information on religious websites that is pattently false....





http://www.mashell.com/~estrauss/Acer.ht...





http://www.mashell.com/~estrauss/Alnu.ht...





http://www.mashell.com/~estrauss/Carp.ht...





http://www.mashell.com/~estrauss/FAGA.ht...





It took me all of 30 seconds to find hundreds of pictures of growth rings in petrified wood from certified geologists.





At some point, Christians should ask themselves why they rely on lies and mis information to support their belief?





If you really do have pictures of petrified wood without Growth rings please give us a link and send them to scientists who may be able to help you.





Claiming that ALL are without growth rings is a bit misleading....





Hope this helps.
Reply:I've also seen many petrified, whole, trees and the growth rings are indeed still there. I've also seen pieces of petrified trees and there, depending on the part of the tree, the growth rings are not visable. Perhaps what you've photographed were not whole trees.





Sorry but the Flood Geology associated the biblical story of Noah is bogus and wthout any merit.
Reply:You might have to look a bit closer to determine the rings. Try pour water on where the rings are supposed to be, and they will usually appear.
Reply:I've seen petrified wood and they do have rings. Without evidence, I'll have to choose to believe my own experience.





Regardless, you're kidding, right? Wood without rings support a world wide flood? Occam's razor my dear.
Reply:EDIT: Seriously, if these pieces you refer to are whole cross-sections, how you be sure you are looking at wood and not a large petrified plant? I can understand looking for proof of the Great Flood in the growth rings of trees that would have existed about that time on Earth. It's ingenious. Carbon dating would be able to prove it's lifeline. Do you have a 360 page? I would very much like to examine at least one of these photos. Not that I doubt you of course, I like to learn and keeping an open mind is a big help. Right now, my mind is open.
Reply:I have never personally seen petrified wood without growth rings. It would be kind if you were to post the pictures ... perhaps to your 360 if you have one?
Reply:The process of petrification involves the tree being buried (cut of from oxygen so that normal decomposition does not occur) and also to be in an area where the material in which it is buried contains soluble silicates, or aluminates--actually a variety of materials. Much like a photograph that can be under or over developed the detail of rings can be lost in the petrification process. The local conditions simply did not develop enough resolution. In very mineral rich strata such as in greece, in parts of arizona--the annual growth rings are highly developed and highly visible. (One can even see seasons that were drier or wetter much like in living trees today). So the resolution of growth rings in petrified wood is dependant on the petrification conditions-but there are literally hundreds of thousands of samples (google petrified wood) with highly distinct growth rings.
Reply:I have petrified wood with growth rings I picked up in Utah. They're quite visible.





~EDIT~ See second link for better description.
Reply:It is my understanding that petrified wood is not wood at all but mineral deposits that replace the organic compounds and solidify over time. As such color variations could not be reproduced, only the shape of the wood. It does seem logical that some striations appear as a result of the variations in wood density due to growth rings but not all rings are signifigant enough to produce said striations. I think it best to follow the suggestion that we study up on the petrification process.





Edit - someone asked me to explain what I meant by signifigant variations in wood density causing some striations. I've harvested. milled, dried and worked with wood over the years. As a cross section of a tree dries out it there may be different degrees of shrinking due to wood density and moisture content leaving an uneven surface grain on the cross-section. It stands to reason that if some rings are more signifigantly recessed than others they would be replicated in the petrification process.as sort of a bas relief. Sort of like an inconsistent Ruffles potato chip if the ridges were concentric.
Reply:how did noah store all of the pathogens on his ark? seeing as how evolution doesn't happen and all.





why won't you answer my question?
Reply:Yes ur rite!!!





Arboretum of Adam!!!





What type of tree is it? I can tell u 4 sure then.
Reply:Kids these days listen to the rap music.





Eat Jello pudding and listen to the jazz instead.
Reply:Maybe you're looking at a rock?
Reply:How, exactly, would it?
Reply:I've personally photographed different varieties of petrified wood which had growth rings.


Tropical wood often has barely visible tree rings, though if there are pronounced wet/dry seasons you will get them as well.





Fully anchored chronologies which extend back more than 10,000 years exist for river oak trees from South Germany (from the Main and Rhine rivers). A fully anchored chronology which extends back 8500 years exists for the bristlecone pine in the southwest US (White Mountains of California).


Isn't the flood suppposed to have occured less than 10 000 years ago?


But if you made a significant scientific discovery, you surely published it in a peer reviewed journal. Can you please post the citation?


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